Perhaps a section on how they made the Malawi male members go to prison and even to their deaths for not carrying a card, but at the same time in Mexico members were allowed to bribe officials to get a false card that stated that they had completed a military course.
They would be a museum worth visiting.
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Watchtower Museums
by eyeslice innow covid restrictions are over, they're pushing on with watchtower museums at many locations through out the world.. looks to me as if they'll be pretty boring.
a few old bibles and photos of the witnessing work from way back when.. one things for sure is they won't include anything relating to constantly changing doctrines or have libraries full of old publications that have since been swept under the carpet..
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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ExBethelitenowPIMA,
But at the end of the day I love the Bible and think it is the word of God and I don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what Jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling Mat 24:14.
Have you ever wondered why the apostles didn't teach "the good news of the kingdom" ?
God gave the apostles and Christians the "ministry of reconciliation".
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation - 1 Cor. 5: 18
Why did God give the apostles the ministry of how to be reconciled to God instead of the good news of the kingdom?
Galatians 1: 8-9 says twice that if we preach a message other than what the apostles taught, we are cursed.New Testament occurrences of the term Gospel of _______ .
Gospel of Jesus Christ (or Christ ) – 12 times
Gospel of God – 7 times
Gospel of the kingdom – 4 times
Gospel of peace – 2 times
Gospel of the grace of God – 1 time
Gospel of your salvation – 1 time
Gospel of the uncircumcision – 1 time
Gospel of the circumcision – 1 time
Gospel of his Son – 1 time
Christians believe that the ministry of reconciliation through Jesus' Blood Covenant "for the forgiveness of sins" is the primary message during the church age.
After the church is removed from earth at the rapture where they "meet the lord in the air" (1 Thess. 4: 17), the message will be changed to "the good news of the kingdom" and will be preached by 144k male Jewish virgins during the GT after Christians are gone.
While Catholics and 1/3 of Evangelicals believe the Kingdom is symbolic(amillinnial), 2/3 of Evangeicals believe in a literal Kingdom on earth (Millinnial Reign) just as JW's do. -
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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.
by Sea Breeze inmy big one was: .
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20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
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This may be the one you are referrng to:
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? - Hebrews 1: 7
Answer? NONE, because Jesus never was an angel?
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What Is happening to watchtower This days?
by Hellothere ini'm a believer.
believe in blessed or cursed.
what is happening to watchtower is my question.
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Sea Breeze
Pretty much preaching the good news of themselves, same as always. Compare this WT tract cover with a modern Christian tract cover:
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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.
by Sea Breeze inmy big one was: .
rev.
20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
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My big one was:
Rev. 20: 5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
I never could understand how the bible couldn't get this right since everyone (righteous and unrighteous) were supposed to be resurrected during the Thousand Year Reign according to WT publications.
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What's your take on being anointed. What requirements do you have to fulfill?
by Hellothere inmy personal opinion is someone that's gonna rule in heaven, has to prove himself on earth before.
so satan don't have accusations against that person.
a christian king is a loving one.
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Hello There!
The biblical requirements to be annointed (set apart & adopted as a son of God) is :
1. You have to accept that you are a sinner and cannot change your position with your will-power because even "your righteousnesses are like filthy rags" to a perfect and holy God (Is. 64: 6)."And Jesus answered and said to them, “It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick." - Luke 5: 31
2. You must receive Jesus as your personal savior because "it is appointed unto man once to die and then judgement" (Hebrews 9: 27). Because each person will personally stand trial after they die, they need a personal Savior to pardon them.
It really is about that simple. The apostle John says quite succinctly:But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God. - John 1: 12
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For JW lurkers - After Hamburg.................
by BoogerMan in.......do you still believe the organization's false teaching that romans 6:7 refer to a person's literal death?.
watchtower may 15th 1982, pp.
8,9 - "the bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed.".
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More:
* Our "old man" is crucified with him v. 6
* We are dead to sin v. 2* recon yourselves to be dead v. 11
* we are freed from sin v. 7
All of these verses are about what happens to a person when they completely surrender to Chist and accept the New Covenant.
The WT would be the first to state that the NT scriptures only applies to those born again (annointed).... Except of course for Romans 6: 7 which they take out of context and claim you can get your sins forgiven without being borrn again and without needing to be part of the NC. (See Mt. 26: 27-28) The NC is specifically "for the forgiveness of sins".
The WT is a perfect religion for unsaved people. You get to do it all yourself and if you get it wrong you'll simply wake up in paradise surrounded by panda bears and fruit.
Of course neither Jesus or any other prophet taught this nonsense.
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For JW lurkers - After Hamburg.................
by BoogerMan in.......do you still believe the organization's false teaching that romans 6:7 refer to a person's literal death?.
watchtower may 15th 1982, pp.
8,9 - "the bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed.".
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If Romans 6: 7 in context:
* we are buried with him in baptism
* we are dead to the law* being made free of sin we are now servants of righteousness
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“Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man" - Jer. 17: 5
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Passport to Heaven
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!
nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.
but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.
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Cofty,
You made bold moral statements right off the bat on this thread related to Judgement, Salvation, Moral Law and Laws of Logic. This is what discussion boards are for... working through ideas and truth statements.
So, how do you explain your belief in the stability of the laws of logic from an atheist worldview?
Surely you must have some foundation for your beliefs. Would you agree that your reliance on the stability of the laws of logic contradict your professed beliefs about our origins? If not, why not?
Are you just going to drop the F bomb on this thread and not even attempt to explain why?